Saltley Reformatory Inmates


Joseph Payne

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No. in Admissions Register: 687
Age: 12
Whence received: H M Prison Derby
Description:
Complexion: Fresh
Hair colour: Brown
Eyes colour: Hazel
Visage: Oval
Particular marks: Mole left temple and jaw
State of health: Good
Able-bodied? Yes
Date of admission: 21 January 1882
Late residence: 32 Alexandra Street, Derby
Parish he belongs to: Letchwick [should be Litchurch, Derby]
Customary work and mode of life: Never engaged in any employment
Whether illegitimate: Born in wedlock
State of education:
Reads: Imperfectly
Writes: Imperfectly
Offence: Stealing 3 pigeons
Circumstances which may have led to it: Not being under proper control
Date of sentence, by whom and court: 13 January 1882; A Woodiwiss, Mayor, and W Honson; Derby
Where imprisoned: H M Prison Derby
Sentence: 10 days hard labour, 5 years at Saltley
Previous committals:
Number: 2
Length: 1) Whipped; 2) Whipped
For what: 1) Stealing 2 ducks; 2) stealing 2 canaries
Father's name: Francis William Payne
Occupation: -
Mother's name: Harriet Patne
Occupation: -
Parents dead? Both living
Survivor married again? -
Parents' treatment of child: Good
Character of parents Nothing known against them. Healthy but poor
Parents' wages: 26s per week
Amount parents agree to pay: Offer to pay 1s 6d per week
Parents address: 32 Alexandra Street, Derby
Superintendent of police (to collect payments): Lieutenant-Colonel W A Delacombe, Chief Constable, Derby
Person making this return: George Barnes, Inspector: I have nothing to add to the above

Notes:

14 May 1881 There is a report of a previous offence in the Derby Daily Telegraph Saturday 14 May 1881 p.3 col.5: STEALING DUCKS. - Samuel Baylis (15) and Joseph Payne (11) were charged with stealing two ducks, the property of George Henry White. - Prosecutor said he was a millwright living in Prince's-street, Pear Tree. He owned five ducks, and kept them in an outhouse at his mother's. On .Thursday, the 12th of April, about seven in the morning they were all safe, but the next day two were missed, and witness did not see them again till Friday night. They were then at the Bloomfield-street Police station. Witness knew Baylis by sight. - Edward Way, a lad living in Malcolm-street, said some time ago he bought the ducks produced from the lad Baylis. He gave 5s. for them. Baylis was alone at the time witness bought them. - lnspector Hardy spoke to apprehending Baylis and Payne. The former when charged admitted stealing the ducks, and made a statement implicating Payne. - Baylis was fined 10s., including costs, and Payne was ordered to receive four strokes with the birch rod.

17 May 1882 Another previous offence was reported in the Derby Daily Telegraph Tuesday 17 May 1881 p.3 col.4: STEALING CANARIES. - Samuel Baylis, George Winson, and Joseph Payne, three boys, were charged with stealing two canaries and a hen's egg, the property of John Atkinson, Shaftesbury-street. - The prosecutor said he was employed at the Midland Works, and lived at 88, Shaftesbury-crescent. The canaries produced were his property. He last saw them safe about six o'clock on the morning of the 7th May, in a cage in a workshop near his house. The same afternoon he missed them. He did not know any of the prisoners. - Sergt. Wragge said that acting on information received he went to Baylis's house on the previous day and saw one of the canaries produced. He apprehended Baylis and charged him with stealing the bird. He said he did not steal it but caught it in a hedge. Payne and Winson he alleged were running it at tbe time. Witness subsequently apprehended the other two prisoners, and in reply to the charge they made statements implicating each other. The other canary was found at the house of Winson's grandmother, in Cotton-lane. - Prisoners now pleaded guilty.- Baylis and Payne were convicted last Saturday of stealing two ducks, and there were also previous convictions against Winson. Baylis and Winson were each fined 20s. including costs, or in default fourteen days' imprisonment. Payne was ordered to receive six strokes from the birch rod.

13 January 1882 There is a report of the crime in the Derby Daily Telegraph Friday 13 January 1882 p.3 col.4: STEALING PIGEONS. - Joseph Payne and Wm. Mitchell, two boys, were charged with stealing three pigeons, the- property of George Naylor, Shafesbury Crescent. - The pigeons were missed from the premises of the prosecutor, who is a "pigeon flyer," on Thursday night. The prisoners disposed of them during the evening to a fancier named Curzon for 2s. 3d. - Prisoner Payne received a very bad character from the police, and the Bench ordered him to be sent to gaol for ten days, after which he must be detained five years in a reformatory. Mitchell was discharged with a caution as to his future behaviour.

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